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God created Adam from

an evolved primate

God creates Lord Gods to become New Gods

Some Biblical questions people want answered

To answer these questions & many more one must analyze & learn to discern religious texts like the Bible.

The Bible has some ambiguous statements for which we hope, after contemplating these pages, the readers gain a fresh understanding.

Genesis 1:27...'God' created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them'. Then...

...The 'Lord' God created Adam & much later put him in a garden in Eden & then created Eve..

The definition of evolve is to develop gradually.

It is beyond logic how creationists can ignore evolution with this statement in the Bible from...

Genesis 1:24...

What happens when we die - Is there a purpose for living - Was it creation or evolution

Why does the universe exists - Was Adam the first man - Is there just one god...

...Let the land produce living creatures.

Had Adam 'not' evolved from the great apes & came into being via God literally creating him out of dirt He would not ...

...have given Adam or men nipples !

Note: It is only by the grace of God everything, including evolution, exists.

Evolution was integrated within creation all as a part of His Divine plan.

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Before considering, in particular, Adam's birth & the infusion into him of "the breath of life" we should review some of God's interventions regarding other special conceptions that are mentioned in the Bible.

Genesis 17:16... Sarah was childless until she was 90 years old.

God promised Abraham that his wife would be a mother but Abraham doubted his own vitality and the infertility of his wife.

Because she laughed at the idea of having a baby at her age God told her she must name the child Isaac.

The name means "laughter."... Isaac became a patriarch of the Jewish people.

Genesis 29:31... "When the LORD saw that Leah was not loved, he enabled her to conceive."... Her sons Levi and Judah both the priestly (Levite) and royal (Judahite) tribes in Israel.

1 Samuel 1:5... But to Hannah he gave a double portion because he loved her, and the LORD had closed her womb. Hannah gave birth to a son.

She named him Samuel, saying, "Because I asked the Lord for him"... He was the last judge of Israel and the first of the prophets after Moses.

Judges 13:2-24... You are barren and childless, but you are going to become pregnant and give birth to a son. It is he who shall begin to deliver Israel from the hand of the Philistines...

His name was Samson.

Luke 1: 6-25... The birth of John the Baptist was a miracle because his mother Elizabeth was 88 years old, his father Zechariah was 99. John was 28 when his mother died.

His father died aged 127.

It has been stated they had help from the angel Gabriel to conceive.

Luke 6:25... “The Lord has done this for me,” she said... John was an only child.

Zechariah was subsequently rendered deaf & mute before his wife's conception & remained that way until after the birth. Some reports say a year after the birth.

It was said he was afflicted this way because he did not believe but one might correctly assume it was also to prevent him speaking, & responding, when questioned as to exactly how Gabriel made Elizabeth pregnant...

Jesus said. "John himself is Elijah who was to come".

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The birth of Jesus, as we know, was also a conception that did not involve sexual intercourse.

However as we now know today artificial insemination is possible & it could have been the case that both Mary & Joseph were placed into a trance like state where Joseph's sperm could have been used & inserted without completely breaking the hymen of Mary.

Had Joseph's sperm been used it would have meant Jesus was the true King of The Jews because the lineage required by prophecy would have been fulfilled.

As Jesus' biological father was said to be unknown the Jewish community was split with a small group becoming Christians while the larger group demanded His crucifixion.

The question is why was it important for all those special conceptions to have also seemingly occurred without sexual intercourse ?

It also raises the question...

Originally did God even want Adam & his descendants to procreate as a result of sexual intercourse.

There were other ways to procreate. Neither Jesus' or Eve's births were as a result of copulation.

What of those other special conception did they have sex to conceive ?

Those that cite John 1:1 say "Jesus was with God in the beginning".

Yes He was there with God in the beginning but He was still created by God in order to manifest God's visions into the physical.

Referred as one of the morning stars that sang in glorification, with other angels, after watching God create the heavens and earth.

In the beginning Jesus was Not the word...(The Word became flesh. The Word was THEN born incarnate with Jesus). The word became flesh. Not the word was Jesus or the word was Yeshua.

The Bible states the Word was God... Was not IS.

God was the word. "and the Word was with God."-within-

God gave the word (taught) to Jesus...The one Lord Jesus made all things with God’s power.

C&P...One God (chief, supreme being), the Father (not 2 or 3), AND ONE Lord Jesus. 1 Corinthians 8:6

First was The Holy Spirit within God.

Then The Holy Spirit within Jesus & all living things.

Each a duality.

In Genesis 2:4... is the description, called an "account" of the Lord God...

Jesus moulded God's visions into physical manifestations on & around the Earth.

Here, in 2:4, is the first mention & use of the term The 'LORD God' after previously mentioning the word 'God', by itself, 29 times ! ... not Lord God.

The term LORD God in all versions of the modern Bible as shown in Gen 2:4 is in all capital letters after which is mostly written Lord or Lord God with capitalization of only the letter L & G.

Note : The Jewish Bible did not have capital letters. The first King James Bible of 1611 did not capitalized pronouns.

Definition of the word Lord is... a man of noble rank or high office; a nobleman. In addition, it is worth taking note, that god in Hebrew is Elohim.

The word Elohim as a plural also meant people in authority like a judge, magistrate, lesser gods, false gods or demi - gods

God gave the word to Jesus to be with Him upon His incarnation

'IF' & when required.

Revealing the divine plan of salvation to humans was to be delivered by Jesus should it be needed.

The divine plan that existed first was not a plan that included Lucifer's rebellion against God.

The possibility there could be a rebellion against God demanded a second plan.

The first plan did not require Jesus to be the Saviour of mankind.

Therefore Jesus' mission would have only related to physical manifestations.

Many angels, although lesser than Jesus, are now also able to incarnate. Thanks to Jesus.

Unlike Jesus lesser angels do not have the same essence of God & as such have limitations to their abilities. Like being unable to convert / mould God's visions into physical form.

Because they have some, for want of a better term, sub-atomic particles to their form they are able to manifest into the physical realms but unlike Jesus, incarnation robs them of many of their angelic abilities.

It seems that Jesus' additional subatomic particles came to Him during His baptism & left Him & returned to God upon His crucifixion.

Doubtless at an earlier time, & maybe in a different universe all, including Jesus, had a physical existence with body & soul.

This is realized from the Bible when Angels called watchers were able, after self embodiment, to breed with humans.

In order for interbreeding to take place, as we know, both male & female must be of the same "kind".

Jesus, Lucifer & all higher angelic entities including most all humans are all independent individual entities with the ability to incarnate & reincarnate. All have free will.

The biblical use & meaning, in Greek, for the 'word' is a 'reason for the plan'.

The plan & reason for the plan is about the physical & as such had to be given & instigated by a physical entity - namely Jesus.

The capitalization of the whole word LORD God means, as from Amos 4:13...

..."He who forms mountains and creates the wind and declares to man what are His thoughts.

He who makes dawn into darkness and treads on the high places of the earth".

All to do with things on and around the earth.

"Lord" in Greek is kurios, which simply means master.

The Lord God of hosts is His name. "Lord God of hosts in the Hebrew Bible means the name Yahweh and the title Elohim literally means 'gods' but rendered as 'God' in English translations."

Lord God is all to do with things on and around the earth.

Lord without a capital refers to a lord who is the owner or custodian over a country or portion of land.

In Gen. 2:1 it states... 'God' completed the heavens & the earth all in their 'vast array'.

As a verb 'array' means...to display or arrange (things) in a particular way.

As from Gen 1:10 after God made the earth & the waters had formed does it start to say, at the end of every summation "And God 'saw' that it was good"... Saw... a vision... an array... on display.

In Gen 2:4 it states 'LORD God'..."This is an account"... As a noun 'account' means...a report or description of events...

...Therefore... The Supreme God completes & puts on 'display' how things are arranged in the astral realm & later the LORD God gives an 'account' of the 'events' regarding His moulding into the physical that for which The Supreme God of Creation had created in the astral realm.

This along with other statements, yet to be mentioned, clearly indicates that there are two Gods.

God & His / protagonist / progeny The Lord God (learning & instigating His father's powers).

1st) is the one & only Supreme Creator God. Whom before time made His higher Angels.

Creations include the astral spiritual & physical creation of the Earth, stars & universe. Then the astral & physical creation of Yeshua. Followed by the spiritual creation of lesser angels along with all the spiritual creations of all life going to make up earth including all male & female humankind's spirits.

2nd) is The Lord God's moulding into the physical everything on & around the earth including the moulding of Adam formed from the earth (evolved) & then giving him the breath of life along with giving physical form to all living things previously designated & visualised (designs / templates) by The Supreme Creator God...

That included creating all humankind's souls from His Father's previously created spirits..

The Bible states God (Lord God) created humans separately. This was true as He created all of the humanoids separately from the other lesser apes.

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Note: Those awaiting their first incarnation had a spirit akin to creatures of the earth & like angels, at that time, had no souls. Genesis 1:25...

All living things are blessed with the spirit for life as given by The Supreme God of Creation and all creatures have souls (also see) as created by Jesus The Lord God of Earth.

Human's souls are stronger than other creatures as given by Jesus to Adam & all those that have a lineage from Adam. That means all of humanity.

'Let us make them like us' was spoken by Jesus to, in all likelihood, Lucifer. They were the first "two morning stars" both enabled to incarnate.

The first spirit to receive a soul was the 'alpha' male Jesus. He then became "the last Adam",

1 Corinthians 15:45 who became a life - giving spirit. Then the 'omega' Revelation 22:13

At first, as planned to take place, the Earth (ground) evolved humanoids.

At the right time of their evolution The Lord God fertilized virgin females.

Of the males, aged 30, one was chosen who was also still a virgin.

That one humanoid male was given a soul / higher spirit - 'the breath of life' - thus becoming the highest of the homosapiens named Adam (of the earth) whom then became the first hu-man.

It was only after Adam was given the "breath of life" that he was isolated into the garden (a hidden place) in Eden.

Taken there to stop his DNA / psyche being contaminated with desire by others.

Those in heaven could only incarnate or indeed could only reincarnate into homomsapiens that were from a direct line of Adam (now includes all humans) that started about 11,000 years ago.

After Adam received the breath of life higher spirits were then able to manifest inside new bodies after procreation (however that took place) into only subsequent generations from Adam.

Corinthians 15:45–49. So it is written :

“The first 'man' Adam became a living being the last Adam, a life - giving spirit "

"A life - giving spirit". "The last Adam"... meaning the last man to have returned to God will be Jesus Christ, the anointed one, the alpha & the omega, arrives back in the heavenly place with all His other created higher souls on judgement day.

The Bible mentions Heaven 1 & heaven 3 but does not mention heaven 2.

The book of Enoch states Enoch passed through 10 heavens but that could have been 10 levels as in the dream of Jacob's ladder.

The Bible also mentions the highest of the heavens .

1st Heaven is on & around the earth (physical) is basically for souls in transition from Earth to a higher plane of existence if acceptable.

2nd Heaven is above Earth & is within the solar system. It is basically for souls awaiting reincarnation & is said to be where Satan resides as the Prince of darkness.

3rd Heaven is said to be in the Orion nebula & it is where Earth's sun was born.

Jesus is believed to reside there.

The highest of all the heavens is where the central hub of The Supreme God of Creation in all likelihood resides (dwelling place) & is accessible by only some angels & Jesus.

This place could well be in a different dimension, in dark matter or a parallel realm.

However because of the interrelationship God has with the Holy Spirit (IT) & He are connected to all that exists on and around the Earth via Jesus.

In Genesis 2:7 ...Then the LORD God formed "a man" from the dust of the ground.

Born, evolved then genetically engineered on earth in all likelihood from the Lord God's selected female virgin.

Some versions of the Bible say "the man" some say 'from the soil of the ground' & another states 'from the slim' of the earth but it is clear all are referring to Adam.

...In a census 1 Chronicles 23:3 Levites were numbered from thirty years old and upward: Corinthians 15:45–49.

So it is written: “The first man" Adam became a living being...

In all probability the man was 30 years old as ...

...According to Jewish text, in that earlier time, a male becomes a man at aged 30.

45 Biblical verses about 30.

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The Biblical interpretation of when & how Adam was created is based on the notion that he was the first human when in all likelihood, it was referring to him being the first to be given a soul/spirit of God's highest strength & quality. (a Hu Man)

Adam would have to have been the first man to be born without sex being involved especially as he was, as Lord God was said to describe Adam as, 'our finest' of all the creations.

Evolved from the dust of the ground in accordance to the Supreme God's original designs. Then the Lord God's intervention with design changes & a higher soul/spirit that took place, starting with Adam between 9,000 to 12,000 years ago...

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No time was mentioned between The Supreme God creating all men & women's spirits in readiness for incarnation to when the Lord God gave Adam the breath of life...

As with other births, that God had a special plan for the offspring, the Lord God caused Adam to be born from a woman that evolved from the earth & in all likelihood she was a virgin & as such resulted, maybe, in Adam's immaculate conception.

Note...Most all paintings & statues by the great artists show Adam with a navel & nipples (born from a womb). Had Adam 'not' evolved from the great apes & came into being via God literally creating him out of dirt He would not have given Adam or men nipples !

Gen 2:18 ...I will make him a helper suitable for him.

Gen 2:19 ... Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals...

Gen 2:20... But for Adam no suitable helper was found.

The Supreme God must have made many human spirits but none of the physical conversions made by the Lord God were good enough even though the Lord God tried to make one.

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Was He expecting there might be another homosapien, maybe a descendant from Adam's mother, that may not have been contaminated with sexual desires ?

He failed to find or make one good enough as such He resorted to cloning one from Adam's rib.

The Supreme God of Creation (omniscience) would have NOT had trouble making a suitable helper & being all knowing would NOT have had to go searching to see if He could find one !

The lessor not so experienced Lord God, at that time, did not know.

Should we have to assume that God, although referred to as masculine (father), was neither male or female.

If He made both men & women 'in His image' could He have been a hermaphrodite ?

Some believe God is not a male, female or a hermaphrodite.

A view put forward in -The Midrash Rabbah- C&P..."Genesis VIII:1 reconciled the two by stating that... "Genesis 1 Male and female He created them, indicates that God originally created Adam as a hermaphrodite, bodily and spiritually both male and female, before creating the separate beings of Adam and Eve".

The Midrash Rabbah ... Just accepting God as being a male with no explanation.

However it is probable that prior to being born all spirits (yet to be humans or animals), including God, Jesus & angels in heaven, had no sexual organs but had / have only the potential to become a male or female when or if becoming incarnate or before reincarnation.

Thus accounting for the reason God is referred to as a male...

...Making the Holy Spirit, whom if 'it' begat all things, feminine ?

Lord God must have created Adam from an evolved primate. Evolved from the ground but not made from mud. Moulded into physical form from the The Supreme God's visions that all are heavenly creations in perfect form.

Just as the story of Jesus, as a child, making live birds from clay was a fantasy based on no real accounts.

Or it was a metaphor for the action of moulding from the earth (evolution) that for which The Supreme God had previously created via His spiritual imagery. An array. He saw it was good.

Jesus moulded into physical form that which His Father created images in their "Vast Array"

Everything evolved from the dust that was emitted from the sun but explaining that to people back then needed a more rounded education or the wording changed after many translations.

What it does mean is Adam evolved, along with others, from the Earth that Lord God made physical & introduced the DNA required for each kind of plant, each kind of animal.

That included each kind of man (humanoids) evolved from the great apes...Gen 2: 19 "Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals".

As mentioned in traditional Jewish texts Adam was said to have been a 30 year old man when his previously created higher soul entered his body which was referred to as "the breath of life" & 'then' he was transferred to the garden in Eden away from other lesser Homo sapiens.

The breath of God is one of a spiritual vibration of The Holy Spirit given to instigate animated life.

The Holy Spirit is in everything to one degree or another with varying vibrations.

The Holy Spirit is what drives, among other things, a one celled creature wanting to live, stay safe & multiply.

The spirit of life is what drives a human soul & enables an awareness of the Christ consciousness.

The body is a place for the soul to reside while learning, growing & increasing the soul's forces in the physical realm in readiness to take that enhanced force to enable the soul going to a higher vibration when reuniting into a heavenly spiritual realm.

Adam's mission was to help create a heaven here on earth. First inside the garden of Eden.

Matthew 6 : 10 "Let your Kingdom come.

Let your will be done, as in heaven, so on earth."

There is no sex in heaven.

Therefore procreation on earth would NOT have required sexual intercourse.

As such it must be considered that prior to being born all souls, including angels in heaven, had no sexual organs but had/have only the potential to become a male or female when or if becoming incarnate or before reincarnation.

Matthew 22:30... "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like angels in heaven."

1 John 2:16-17... “For everything in the world – the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life – comes NOT from the Father but from the world".

Galatians 5:13... "You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love".

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Galatians 5:16-26... “This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh”.

“For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that you cannot do the things that you would”

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One of the first Christian founding fathers Saint Augustine, who was made the patron Saint of Theologians...

..."He insisted that the guilt of the first sin is transmitted, through

sexual intercourse, to

all generations”

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A part of The Supreme God was used in creating Jesus (inherited)... Hebrew 1:4 The Lord God (Jesus) then passed it on to Adam referred to as the 'breath of life'.

It was then passed on to all human souls awaiting incarnation after being born only to those from a direct line of Adam who became, while alive, like Jesus ( who was the first & last ) ...

... a life giving spirit .

It could have been that those in heaven once had to have sex to reproduce when they lived in a physical form but it took millions, maybe billions, of years before they moved into the etheric world where reproduction could have been by division.

Please take note : If Adam was created by The Lord God and did NOT evolve from the earth, as creationists want people to believe, why give him & mankind nipples ?

In addition why did the great works of art, many commissioned by the church, show Adam as having nipples & a navel if they believed Adam was created by God forming his body from the mud / earth & not from a female's womb ?

There are those that argue the first sin was disobeying God & not the eating of the fruit (a euphemism for having sex ?) however others see the disobedience as an aberration.

Had Eve committed murder, after eating the fruit, the sin would be the murder not the disobedience.

It seems relevant, when the Bible talks so much about let the punishment fit the crime, i.e. an eye for an eye & a tooth for a tooth, that Eve should get great pains by giving birth after gaining pleasure by indulging in the fruits of the flesh.

They were both warned their punishment for eating the fruit was the loss of everlasting life on earth.

So where was the reasoning of adding to that punishment by giving pain after birth if partaking of the fruits had nothing to do with sex ?

In addition they covered their now used genitals with leaves as they were ashamed.

Had Eve not done anything after eating the fruit & everything was just the same as before then how can the disobedience be considered a sin ?

From wikipedia.org "It is called "sin" only in an analogical sense: it is a sin 'contracted' and not 'committed' – a state and not an act" (Catechism of the Catholic ...Original Sin (disambiguation).

The explanation by Wikipedia & many others in qualifying the original sin as the disobedience was assigned by the Catholic Church leaders as it would encourage Catholic followers having less sex & fewer children if sex was considered a sin.

Adam would have been taught how to procreate, at the right time, without the use of sex. The same way as he was created maybe.

He needed a helper in tending to the garden. Gen. 2:20 "But for Adam no suitable helper was found".

Another reference regarding other people besides only Adam in the world at that time.

The Bible did not say he needed a mate so that they could copulate.

Had Eve not convinced Adam to partake in the fruits of the flesh they would have both been instructed as to how to procreate without having sex.

Both Adam & Eve would have thought that procreation for them was different from the animals because of their own experiences regarding their introduction into the world.

The punishment for Eve, because of partaking of the fruit, not for the disobedience, was making her have pains in childbearing.

Genesis 3:16 "with painful labor you will give birth to children".

Here we must conclude had she NOT indulged herself in the fruits of the flesh she would not have had to give birth to children with pain like the animals.

This punishment would only mean something to her if she had a prior understanding that for her having a baby was NOT going to be a birth from the womb after sex as was the case with all the animals; where the mothers, as seen by both Adam & Eve, all experience pain, some indeed dying from the pain while birthing.

Remember Eve was also not born as a result of sex but was cloned from Adam's rib. (God can make DNA as He did with all His creations of the different kinds; as a result cloning any combination is possible for Him).

Neither Adam or Eve would have desired sex when there was no DNA from their mother or father influencing their psyche.

Having sex causes desire & desire leads to sin. Because of Satan's corruption the desire for sex is today in the DNA of all people as a result we are all born with 'the original sin'.

Some ask why did God give Adam, Eve & mankind genitals if He did not want us to use them.

A good question for which there may be more than one answer but first here is the most likely reason...

Just in case something went wrong with His first plan, the non sexual procreation, as indeed it did because of Satan's interference, then reproduction by sex would be God's second plan.

The Lord God would have been about to teach Adam & Eve how procreation takes place without having sex when Satan interfered with God's first plan...

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However the regeneration of sexual organs would still have been possible as a safeguard if their etheric existence became under threat requiring them to revert to living & multiplying in the physical once again...

...One of God's safeguards for continued existence under adverse conditions maybe.

In humans nearly two trillion cells 'divide' every day in order to multiply as do bacteria & viruses.

There are many creatures on earth today that 'change their sex &' some can get pregnant 'without a partner'.

This can and has taken place in 'humans'. Human 'parthenogenesis'.

Remember a war in heaven came about when the Lord God declared mankind as their finest creation & as such should be honoured & served.

Satan said mankind should serve him as he was before them.

Satan convinced one third of

heavenly angels to side with his ideas & try to overthrow God.

Satan & his followers arrived on earth many years before Adam & begun to defile all of God's creations by cross breeding & genetically altering not just animals of the land & oceans but plants & much later humans.

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The result of some interbreeding with women were giant men & with some animals it resulted in demons.

Genesis 6:4..."There were giants on the Earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men who were of old, men of renown."

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Galatians 5:16 "But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh".

"Do on earth as is done in heaven".

There is no sex in heaven.

Gen 2:25... "Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame".

After partaking of the fruit. Gen 3: 10... “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”

Gen. 3:11 "Who told that you were naked" ?

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It is doubtful that Satan was in the Garden of Eden but it would have more likely have been one of the fallen angels that left with Satan when he was cast out of heaven.

This angel was described as being a serpent.

(The only fossilised snake that had four stumpy legs was 20 million years old).

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John 4:34... “My food,” said Jesus, “is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work."

"to finish His work" ?

So we must ask... 'when was the most obvious time that God stopped His work & Jesus took over' ?

The most obvious time was when Adam & Eve fell from grace, were banished from Eden & were in need

of a Saviour.

“Before Abraham was born, I am" !

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Keep in mind women impregnated by an angel gave birth to children who grew into giants.

That, according to lateral thinkers, was why Adam was 15 feet tall.

This makes the probability that Adam's father was an angel / or Lord God & his mother was a human virgin credible as that type of interbreeding was the proven way that results in giants being born into the world from an earth female.

Luke 3:38 "the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God".

One hypothesis is that the trees in Eden were embodied angels. There to teach by passing on knowledge (fruits).

The tree of the knowledge of good & evil, some believe was the devil. Eve taking of the fruits was a euphemism for having sex that resulting in her getting pregnant.

They believe that after Adam & Eve were cast out of Eden Eve gave birth to Cain 'the evil one'. Eve's second birth, Abel was 'later' fathered by Adam, he was 'the good one'.

This gives further credence that not only was the fruits from the trees about sex the father of Cain was probably NOT Adam.

God's plan for His creations on this earthly plane was for man to evolve into a higher state without sex for reproduction. This way fast tracking the process of untainted souls entering back into heaven with an enriched & more powerful soul force.

1 John 2:15 ...Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

Souls could not & cannot go into the highest of the heavens having a desire for the physical in any way, shape or form.

Doubtless many of those in heaven once not only had life in the physical plane but also had sex organs for reproduction however after eons they became enlightened that sexual desire was holding back the development of their higher selves' progression in the after life & that reproduction in their physical realm developed to test tube babies causing, over time, latent reproduction organs.

After Adam evolved from the earth (ground) he was placed in a garden in Eden to isolate him from the outside world ensuring against contamination of his DNA by indulging in the pleasures of the body as others were doing outside Eden.

Gen 2:8... After God made the man form from the earth (evolved) then "in Eden He put the man".

Gen 2:15... "The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden".

He made Adam & Eve without sexual involvement so that the desire for sex was not in their minds or in their DNA.

Desire is the root of all evil.

When common sense is used one can only conclude God did NOT intend, want or have as His first plan for Adam or Eve to have sex because of not only that previously mentioned but also because of the following Biblical statements:

Sex is forbidden between close kinship as mentioned in Leviticus 18:7–18 ... 20:11–21 & considering Eve was a clone from Adam there is no closer kinship.

Most religions demand that devotees practise celibacy.

There are about 43 Bible Verses about Evil Desires'

God called Eve a helper & not Adam’s wife. Adam & Eve were not married before they ate of the fruit.

They did not have sex in order to procreate. He called Eve Adam's wife only after they partook of the fruits.

If God had wanted people to have sex to reproduce why did He not allow sexual intercourse between Joseph & Mary to conceive Jesus ?

Likewise with all those other previously mentioned special conceptions that God had important plans for the offspring.

Why was God upset at the fallen angels having sex with women if they were being fruitful & multiplying ?

God said for Adam & Eve to multiply but when they had sex God banished them.

These are maybe other indications that God wanted people to multiply but not via sexual intercourse.

Romans 5:12-21..."Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned."—

Psalm 51:5, “I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me”.

The definition of a serpent is often, more so in early days, "a sly or treacherous person, especially one who exploits a position of trust in order to betray it."

Had the serpent been like a snake what sort of curse was it to crawl on its belly for the rest of its days if that was what it did before ?

In addition how could it have been Satan if after the curse he was later never depicted as a snake crawling around on his belly for his days ?

Satan ruined God's first plan especially when fallen embodied Angels (before & after The Great Flood) developed their latent sexual organs & enjoyed the fruits of the flesh & entered into earthly women.

Once His first plan was undermined The Supreme God of Creation would have had to leave the Earthly realm, as suggested in City Data.com above, when it states 'Jesus approached them afterwards' & not God.

It could not have been The Omnipotence, Omniscience, Omnipresence Creator God because He would not need to ask... "Where are you" ? "What have you done" ? "Who told you you were naked" ? & " Did you eat the fruit " ?

From that point on in the Bible one has to assume any reference to God was either the spirit of Jesus yet to be incarnate & learning to be like God, Satan assuming the role of God, angels speaking or acting on behalf of God, Jesus incarnate, fallen angels working on behalf of Satan, misinterpretations / mistranslations or religious leaders lying to better their own agendas.

Corinthians 11:14... "And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

Corinthians 2:11 "He is so eloquent, so persuasive in his lies, we are so gullible, that "we fall for his schemes."

It is common sense that from these & more verses from the Bible that some of what is written was not the words from God or the Lord God. We should learn to discern.

Just because somethings are not directly mentioned in the Bible, like the God of creation having to leave Earth, does not mean it did not happen. For example...

...The Bible speaks of 1st heaven & 3rd heaven. Just because it mentions nothing about 2nd heaven does not mean 2nd heaven does not exist.

There are verses throughout the Bible, many referenced in these pages, that clearly indicate that God is in His highest of heavens & that Jesus, along with a host of angels, are the ones monitoring the Earthly realms & trying to guard against the influences of Satan & his devotees that promote evil in order to amass soul forces against God's plans.

Eve was an afterthought & was created because Adam “needed a helper” & “because he was lonely”…

…not because he needed to have sex when procreation on earth, for them both, was known to be without sex…

We must learn to discern if we want to understand the truth.

Psalm 115:16...The highest heavens belong to the 'LORD', but the earth he has given to mankind... but in The Bishops' Bible of 1568 it states. The heauen, I say is 'God's': and he hath geuen the earth vnto the children of men.

Meaning the Highest of heaven's' are for God &/or LORD Jesus but not for mankind.

In Psalm 91:1... Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.”

Meaning I trust the Lord when I live by the rules as given by The Supreme God.

John 3:13...The Lord Jesus Himself said, "And no one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended out of heaven, the Son of Man, who is in heaven"

Meaning only God & The Lord Jesus son of God have been to heaven... one has to assume that it should say the highest heaven as the Bible states John The Baptist was in heaven.

1 Kings 8:27...“But will God really dwell on earth ? The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you...

Meaning God is not dwelling on Earth at this time & that possibly He is in a different dimension.

In Revelations 21: 3... it is talking about future events... “Look ! God’s dwelling place is NOW among the people, and he WILL dwell with them".

Meaning, again... He is not dwelling on Earth at this time but He will be after judgement day.

John 4:34... “My food,” said Jesus, “is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work."

Meaning the Lord God is to finish His work because God the Father is not here to finish it.

Digressing here to make a point : Regarding lost & found religious texts.

Angels not only had to teach Enoch to read & write using words not cuneiform or hieroglyphics but how to make parchment & transcribe the words using pen & ink instead of clay tablets.

We know that at least 969 years went by from Enoch's writings until the start of The Great Flood when his son died & as such it must be obvious that as the parchment deteriorated, over that long period of time, copies would have to have been made.

Copies made later does not always mean they were forgeries neither does it mean the contents are inaccurate.

His book, after his death & after The Great Flood, was known to have been continued by his great great grand children who would have definitely had copies made as the originals, & later also the copies, must have certainly suffered decomposition during the additional 450 years of Japheth's life, Noah's youngest son.

Even copies found much later the transcriber could have reworded parts to make the readers think they were the original authors of the work & as such then been able to take the credits & rewards on offer, in those later times, for their own gain; be it those gains monitory, political or for religious motives.

However that does not always mean the entire body of the text & its relevance was altered.

Gen 2: 25 "Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame".

Sex had opened their eyes to the knowledge of good & evil. They realized that being naked in front of God would reveal their involvement with sex via the exposure of the changes to their now used genitals & as such took tree leaves to cover those changes.

Ask yourself ...

Why did God make Adam, Eve, Jesus & other famous people without the use of sex. WHY ?

Because sex is / was seen as the originator of sinfulness.

That does not mean we should all stop having sex but the way of conception is changing....

First study to explore prosocial development of adults

conceived with assisted reproductive technology show positive

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"Celibacy serves as such an objective mark of special state & ritual purity.

Celibacy probably is derived from taboos that regarded sexual power as a rival to religious power, & the sexuality of the opposite sex as a polluting factor, especially in sacred or crisis situations".

" When 'Jesus' approached them afterwards, they hid from him because they were naked. It makes sense that they were now aware of their nakedness after engaging in sexual relations.

Eve then had two sons, one was Cain (who was evil) and the other was Abel (who was good). Was Cain, then, of Satan's seed and Abel was of Adam's seed ? "

"Cain is never listed in Adam's genealogy, but is described as "of the evil one"

Matthew 22:30 Jesus said...At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

Meaning there is no sex in heaven.

Psalm 51:5, “I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me”.

Please take note City Data states that it was Jesus that approached them NOT God. More on this later.

In addition it is worth keeping in mind that God often referred to people as trees.

C&P from City Data..." Satan tempting Eve with sexual sin, meaning she had sex with the serpent (Satan) in the garden, and then went and had sex with Adam to show him what she had discovered.

The bible never says that Adam and Eve ate an apple, it says they tasted fruit from the tree of knowledge - good and evil.

God has used the word "trees" symbolically in the scriptures before to mean people ".

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Many assume that incest must have occurred in order for the population to increase if Adam, Eve, Cain & Abel were the only people.

It has been said, by some, that Cain married his half sister but she could only have been a half sister if Adam or Eve had sex with someone not of their immediate family...

So where did Cain's wife come from ?

Were their other people outside of Eden ?

Many theologians & Sunday school instructors teach that Adam was the first & only man.

Keep in mind that after the Lord God gave Adam, who was made from the Earth (evolved), the breath of life, He then took him into the garden of Eden.

Why did He not give Adam the breath of life in Eden ?

Because Adam was the best of all the hominoids male virgins, bred by the Lord to virgin females born from the Earth, before planting the Garden in Eden where He could isolate Adam away from others thus protecting him from having his DNA contaminated with sexual desires.

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A Jewish work of the first century C E between 20 BC and AD 70, The Book of Adam and Eve.

Chapter LXXV11 & LXXV111 narrates how the first murder was planned.

8 Therefore God did not accept his offering, because his heart was full of murderous thoughts. 9 And they all thus lived together in the cave.

Cain was fifteen years old, and Abel twelve years old. Jealousy overcomes Cain. He makes trouble in the family.

How the first murder was planned...

Chapter LXXVI - Cain becomes jealous of Abel because of his sisters.

Chapter LXXVII - Cain, 15 years old, and Abel 12 years old, grow apart.

Chapter LXXV111 - Jealousy overcomes Cain. How the first murder was planned.

In addition to the above regarding other people living outside of Eden at that time is Genesis 2:18 it states ...

The LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone...

... I will make a helper suitable for him.”

Then in Gen 2:20 it states... "for Adam no suitable helper was found."

Did this mean He was not able to make a suitable helper ?

As such did the Lord God decide He would see if there was a suitable one out of all the wild animals including all of the different kinds of humanoids the Lord made out of the earth to evolve in Gen 2:19.

Suitable ?

Was He expecting there might be another humanoid, maybe a descendant from Adam's mother, that may not have been contaminated with sexual desires ?

After studying them all it appears a female named Lilith Isaiah 34:14, was chosen...

C&P...Of Jewish tradition tells Lilith as Escaped Wife. In Genesis Rabbah, we encounter a brief midrash that claims that Adam had a first wife before Eve.

Lilith was formed from the ground (evolved), was chosen to be Adam's wife but apparently she had lustful desires and was shown to be demonic as such she was not suitable.

What can we take from this so far:

1) We now know there were other people

2) We know where Cain's wife came from

3) This explains where Adam came from

4) Where Adam's mother came from

5) Adam's father was an angel or Lord God

6) How could others know Cain was a murderer ?

Neither of them were married or had children at that time for which should negate other theories they were over 130 years old when the murder took place.

Theologians postulate the weak idea that Adam & Eve, during that 130 years would have had many other children & other grandchildren...

Those children, when adults, were said to have populated the area that Cain was banished into thus supposedly accounting for where Cain's wife & other people came from.

However it is hard to believe that, allegedly, at 130 years old Cain & Abel had no wives & no children yet their younger brothers & sisters were seemingly said to have had multiple spouses with multiple children.

Instead of death for his crime, maybe because of his age, Cain was banished to the land of Nod.

He pleaded with God not to cast him out as 'others' would want to kill him knowing he was a murderer.

'Others' could have been children of Satan as in The First Book of Adam & Eve Satan tells Cain ... ...my relations are in the north.

In Chapter LXXVIII of The Book of Adam and Eve. Adam suggests to Eve it was ok for Cain to marry his brother Abel's sister and for Abel to marry Cain's sister.

But Eve said. "I do not like Cain because he is hard - hearted"

This, plus Satan saying to Cain that he 'loved him,' may give credence to the notion that it was Satan that directed the serpent (a fallen angel ) to impregnate Eve.

After, Adam & Eve were banished, Eve gave birth to Cain, said to be the evil one, & as such Adam said it would be ok for Cain to marry his brother's sister' ( if Adam was not Cain's father it would have been ok ).

However Cain did not get married as he was cast out, because of killing his brother, to live in the land of Nod.

God said He would put a mark on Cain's head to let others know not to kill him because he was protected by God.

Some say the mark was a tattoo but that is doubtful as anyone can make a tattoo.

Did Cain then have an aura, described as a horn in Jewish text, that to others would indicate he was a murderer ?

This would make more sense.

We know, even today, animals can sense fear & that could be

because of an aura for which all humans have but today can

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"According to Earth's time scale, we are officially in the Holocene, meaning an entirely recent epoch, which began 11,700 years ago after the last major ice age".

It was about this time humanity was making the transition from living off the land to actively raising crops & domesticating animals.

This gave man extra time to become more educated however the explosion of changes have been unprecedented according to the Center for Evolutionary Psychology at the University of California.

They found... "an abundance of recent adaptive mutations etched in the human genome; even more shocking, these mutations seem to be piling up faster and ever faster, like an avalanche.

Over the past 10,000 years, their data show, human evolution has occurred a hundred times more quickly than in any other period in our species history".

Over the hundreds of thousands of years there were different types of humanoids (anthropologists say 15 to 20).

Maybe Adam was a planned perfectly formed & engineered humanoid that evolved from the earth & was the first to be given a hue of God's finest light.

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It seems clear this era has been ushered in with a new type of human arising from the line of Adam.

1,656 years passed from the birth of Adam until The Great Flood & that recent archaeology evidence suggests the flood was around 7,500 years ago.

This would put the date of Adam's birth, the breath of life & the cloning of Eve, at the very least 9,156 to 11,500 years ago; coinciding with the findings of the University of California that about 10,000 years ago there was "an abundance of recent adaptive mutations etched in the human genome".

Their data shows, human evolution has occurred a hundred times more quickly than in any other period in our species’ history.

The reason given by the Bible for creation was for His glory. " God created the world and all that is in it for His own glory " ?

Matthew 6:13 - For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever.

Based on information available it is reasonable & logical to conclude as previously stated that...

...God created, or introduced, the building blocks for life (DNA) to evolve from the Earth over millions of years until a time when primates reached a stage of development that would warrant His further intervention by creating; maybe by cloning Adam from the best of the humanoids at that time.

However in all likelihood he was, like Jesus, a result of an immaculate conception.

Please take note : As alluded to earlier *It is important to consider the following as a distinct possibility as to why physical creation was deemed not only necessary but vital for the continuance of life in both Heaven & Earth...

...God formed Adam into becoming the first perfect receptacle that would enable a symbiotic relationship to begin transferring the enhanced energy & power of the soul's forces return to heaven from the Earth's kingdom thus ensuring a continuous cycle of existence for ever.*

One of the meanings of glory is... honour won by notable achievements.

This planet, like all others, one way or another, will eventually decay.

Before that happens all souls will be saved...

Revelation 21

"Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away".

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Everything is changing into something else

Spirit Soul + Soul Body

Everything is a duality

God is the only 'entity' that NOW remains unchanged. At one time even God would have been changing before creation.

Change results from learning. Once everything is learnt there is no need to change.

What is love ? God is love.

Life & evolution occur because a designer makes sure the life & the changes are in accordance with the need of the life requiring the change & is in harmony to a higher (Heavenly) & lower (Earthly) plan.

Natural Earthly evolution has been responsible for some of the changes but only by the grace of God & His preconceived plans has everything been created & enabled to evolve.

Before any action takes place it is first enacted in the mind (thoughts). This gives all actions an etheric beginning where The Holy Spirit decides, in accordance with God, if a change is to take place.

The Holy Spirit is everywhere & is, for instance, as previously stated, the reason why, among other things, a one celled organism wants to live, stay safe & multiply.

God knows how The Holy Spirit works & as such will harmonise in accordance with plans for His creations (souls) regarding the need to live, learn & evolve to the next higher level of existence on a journey back to where it came from but with an increased positive energy.

"All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men" (Matthew 12:31).

His creations & evolutionary design changes may take place in an instant in the etheric realm with the physical reactions some taking only a short time to come about but others taking hundreds or even thousands of Earth years before fruition.

2 Peter 3:8... "A day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and a thousand years is like a day".

Atheists often argue... if all things are decided before by God what's the point if we have no free will.

The answer is we all have free will...God wants all of us to love & know Him but if some people do not believe in Him...that is free will at work.

If there was No free will people would Not be allowed to Not believe in Him.

Just because God knows what we will do does not mean we are not in control.

The father knows his child will eat the fruit & ice cream in the refrigerator & leave the stale food with mould growing on it.

Having said that we must consider that God & His helpers try to guide us when we read in Proverbs 16:9...

"The heart of man plans his way, but the Lord establishes his steps”

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It may seem to some the Bible presents the creation of men, women & Adam as if they took place at about the same time when in fact a gap of many hundreds or thousands of years could have elapsed. As indeed a very large gap may have also occurred between Adam & the creation of Eve.

In order to account for the age of the Earth some Jewish theologians add the age of the generations from when God finished creation & conclude the Earth & mankind is about 6,000 years old.

However they do not & cannot account for the unknown time that elapsed when the Bible states...

the first four days when there was no sun, “and it came to time pass” & “he was aware of being lonely” which also implies a long passage of time.

In fact many millions of years could have taken place before earth even had water.

After Adam & Eve the brain of humans underwent changes that had little to with DNA and more to do with a higher level of consciousness.

Was there a time when Homo sapiens became “human.” ?

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" Remember, Hu is Mandarin for God and Man is from the Hindu word for mind---Manas, before the Latin, and thus you were once called a God Mind !

The body is not described in the word human. So you are a Hu - Man - Living Soul, who owns a body as an avatar.

It is a common misconception that the word Human comes from the Latin Humanus derived from the words Humus, meaning earth or ground and man.

The problem is that the first know use of the word Humus (1796) came after the first use of the word Humanus (?-1384) of which it was supposedly composed. (Hu in word Human equates to Godmind Hu = God Man = Mind ).

This deception of etymology is to cover up the true origins of the word human. It is actually a composition of the words hue (?-900) and man, together literally meaning the colour of man or the appearance of man."

Over the last hundreds of thousands of years there were different types of hominids. Anthropologists say 15 to 20.

It seems Adam was the first of the hominids (homosapiens Latin: “wiseman”) given a higher soul containing God's finest light making him the first Hu - Man.

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How can anyone believe ... The Omnipotence, Omniscience, Omnipresence Supreme Creator GOD of the universe, the stars, Jesus, the angels, Earth, animals, plants & of all souls...Kill in revenge as punishment & is cruel to His creations as the Bible & the teachers of the Bible preach ?

They got it wrong ! The proof is shown in the Biblical text presented herein:

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Scientists know all Homo sapiens today had the same original ancestral mother with a wide range of times from 180,000 to 600,000 years ago.

However, as has been shown herein, the mitochondrial Eve referred to is NOT the Eve of Adam's rib.

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Revelations 21:3…"And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look ! God’s dwelling place is NOW among the people, and he Will dwell with them.

They WILL be his people, and God himself Will be with them and be their God."

Note: It says “God’s dwelling place is NOW among the people”.

That statement is about a future event when all souls, after judgement, will be forgiven & cleansed of sin thus enabling the newly anointed Lord God (Jesus), after He takes His throne, to be with His people & be their New God.

Some say God is everywhere. That is true of the Holy Spirit but that function for God can best be understood by using an analogy.

Video surveillance cameras are everywhere these days recording every action that takes place.

No one is sitting in front of a screen watching for crimes but when a crime does occur the authorities can view what took place.

Likewise with The Supreme God & The Lord God.

They have a host of entities operating in the Earthly and heavenly realm all with their different responsibilities of gathering and recording information much of which that is of importance gets recorded in "The Book of Life" that will be reviewed by Jesus for God at the end of the era.

God's purity needs to be maintained & that can only be done in an environment that is surrounded by & contains untainted higher vibrations.

Jesus & a host of different angels are there to maintain God's sacred environment.

You would not see a brain surgeon doing his work in a sewer.

Matthew 11:11... "Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he".

Romans 3:12... "All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.”

It is doubtful anyone alive today will be going to join God in heaven as we are all sinners.

Only after the judgement will The Lord God Jesus become an Almighty God & join with His people on this Earthly Kingdom.

Revelation 1:8... “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 4:8... “’Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty,’ who was, and is, and is to come.”

Revelations 21:3... also means that previously (now) God’s dwelling place is NOT among the people.

Matthew 25: 31 ...“When the Son of Man comes in his glory and all his angels are with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.

God, up until judgement day, is in His dwelling place so why would He be active on Earth when He installed Jesus (Lord God of Earth) to finish His work ?

John 14:6... Jesus answered "No one comes to the Father except through me".

The Lord God's people were Adam & Eve & their subsequent generations.

Once His first plan was undermined The Supreme Creator God would have had to leave the Earthly realm because of the sin & the forthcoming sins that The Supreme Creator God did not, understandably, need or want to be involved with.

Jesus was the result of The Holy Spirit & God…

Jesus was the one created to be able to physically manifest if Lucifer decided he wanted to take over & rule the Earthly realms…

When Lucifer incarnated his name was changed to Satan.

Again... one has to assume any reference to God was either the spirit of Jesus yet to be incarnate & learning to be like God, Satan assuming the role of God, angels speaking or acting on behalf of God, Jesus incarnate, fallen angels working on behalf of Satan, misinterpretations / mistranslations or religious leaders lying to better their own agendas.

John 5 36... “I have testimony weightier than that of John… For the works that the Father has given me ‘to finish’ the very works that I am doing—testify that the Father has sent me”.

Meaning, Jesus was finishing God's work. Therefore God was not around to be cruel, punish or kill especially innocent Egyptian babies.

John 8:58... Jesus answered...“I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am” !

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Many Christians believe this statement by Jesus meant He was saying He was God but the traditional English translation that Judaism uses is...

"I will be what I will be."

"I am" can rightly be said by any one before being born as we were all a part of our Father.

In addition all can say before being born "I am whoever I have been designated to become."

"I think therefore I am"

Christians started to say Jesus was God after the Roman emperor Constantine converted to Christianity & stopped calling himself god as all previous Roman emperors had done.

This served as a reason for many others to join the Christian movement as it implied there was only one God & all other gods were inferior.

However how could Jesus be God when at His baptism Matthew 3:16-17... a voice from heaven said...

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...This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.

What about all these other statements ? ...

The Lord's prayer. Jesus' prayer to God His Father...

" Our father who art in heaven "

For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will,

but the will of him that sent me.

My God, my God, why have you forsaken me ?

Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do...

" No one comes to the Father except through me "

Jesus raising Lazarus “Father, thank you for hearing me. You always hear me, but I said it out loud for the sake of all these people standing here, so that they will believe you sent me.”

Here Jesus is praying, to His Father to cause a miracle, out loud when He previously prayed for miracles in silence. This way letting people know it was God's miracles & not Jesus'.

Hebrews 1:5 "Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a 'more excellent name' than they...

This could be a description of God making Jesus a Lord.

“I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me".

And the most relevant... Matthew 24:36 ... "about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. "

If Jesus was the one & only God He would know the date.

Many also quote John 10:30...Jesus said "I and the Father are one.".... Along with " Before Abraham I am."

Then, after saying that, Jesus was accused of blasphemy because they said He was calling himself God. Jesus answers those questioning Him by saying...

...“Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’ ?

The explanation relates to the term Elohim, for which means God in Hebrew when referring to the supreme heavenly being.

When referring to earthly people Elohim could also be referring to magistrates, judges & other people who hold positions of authority.

As such Jesus could have also been saying that He was just like them in holding a position in Earth of an authoritarian figure.

His expression "I and the father are one" is also used in describing men & women who get married as in Genesis 2:24 "man is united to his wife, and they become one flesh".

We know they are not literary one flesh. Meaning they can become one flesh in their offspring.

& Galatians 3:28..." for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

Meaning Jesus does not discriminate.

It does not mean that we are all just one entity. Although the Christ consciousness now in all of us.

"All for one & one for all " is an expression used but again it does not mean all are literally one entity.

Again Matthew 24:36-38... The Son and the angels in heaven don’t know when it will be.

Only the Father knows.

These verses & many more are indications that Jesus never actually called Himself God & neither does the Bible.

He was saying He is the Lord God of earth like our Father is God of heaven.

He was one in the same...

May your kingdom come soon on earth as in heaven.

Like God like Jesus

Like father like son.

Pontius Pilate could not find Jesus guilty of blasphemy.

Corinthians 2 : 11-14... we are told “And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light".

Meaning Satan was able to deceive people by pretending to be God or an angel of God.

Genesis 1:26... Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule...

Meaning the Earth belongs to & is ruled by mankind headed by Jesus.

God is in the highest heaven now as stated in Psalm 115:16 "The highest heavens belong to the LORD, but the earth he has given to mankind".

Jesus was a man & like us He has a soul & the Holy Spirit within & was created as a Saviour for mankind's soul should Satan try taking over the Earthly realm.

Jesus took over from God in Earth & as such He tells us... “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me".

Revelation 1:8...“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, The Almighty." (is to come The Almighty)

Here Jesus is telling us He was the first to be created with a soul that was able to evolve in the physical world. The first to complete the cycle back to God & the first to become an Almighty God after judgement day when He will become the Almighty God of Earth. ( His Father moves on ? )

He blazed the pathway that enables Him, & any one following Him, to become a god of a world.

We all can become New Gods in any of the billions of planetary systems able to support life in not just this universe.

Exodus 20:5..Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God.

Hard to believe that The Supreme Creator God of everything, who has everything, who knows everything, was jealous however a lessor inexperienced not yet so endowed younger "Earthly Lord" learning to be like God might have been jealous.

The Lord God was just like a person with human feelings.

Jesus at one stage would have been struggling while learning to cope with His physical Earthly emotions because of the heavenly powers attached to Him.

This is made clear when He lost His temper in the church by turning over the trader's tables...

He expressed His temper.

He expressed His anger.

He expressed His jealousy.

He expressed His sorrow for making mankind.

He expressed His regret for The Great Flood.

All human emotions of frailty.

John 5: 37 …"And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me… You have NEVER heard his voice nor SEEN his form."

The Supreme Creator God of Love left the Earth at the point Adam & Eve had tasted the fruit (had sex) and He handed over those responsibilities to others headed by the yet to incarnate Jesus & His angels.

The Supreme Creator God, if He did want to communicate, would have sent a messenger angel, a high Lord or as we know He also sent Jesus His only son.

The Ten Commandments were NOT made for Adam & Eve & were presented by The Supreme God of Creation to Moses (from the burning bush) but the words He heard were from “The Saviour of the World”.

The time for The Saviour to manifest in the world was when God's people needed saving after a fall. The first to fall was Adam & Eve ergo they needed a Saviour then.

* Please take note the following is important when trying to discern who was actually speaking & why it was mentioned...

C&P…"Saviour, with a capital S, is one of the names Christians use for Jesus, Saviour of the World, Lord and Saviour, the one who saves souls."

”The primary meaning of the word 'God' stands for a Powerful Almighty Being"....

'Lord', on the other hand, means the Almighty Saviour of the world. *

Again, after their fall Adam & Eve became…as quoted in the Bible, & as assumed stated, by the Lord God …”they have become like us”.

Certainly implies there is more than one god. …after using the term “Like Us”.

Psalm...82:6. "I said, You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High".

Children implies still learning to become like the Most High.

When Jesus said no one has heard God’s voice or seen His image. He was not making it up.

Deuteronomy 4:12…”Then the LORD spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form; there was only ‘a’ voice”….

Deuteronomy 4:15...“You saw no form of any kind the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire. Therefore watch yourselves very carefully”

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Note: it does NOT say …. there was only the voice of God. It says it was only “a voice”.

Also note here it states “The LORD” ….”you heard the sound” … “saw no form” …….There was only a voice.

What type of god would order Abraham to murder his son ?

Not The Original Supreme Creator God because as Jesus points out no one has heard His voice or seen His form.

Meaning it was NOT God ordering Abraham.

God does not tempt.

In all likelihood it was Satan as in Corinthians 2:14... we are told “And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.”

However it could have been Jesus but doubtful.

It must be taken into consideration the Devil tricked people by pretending to be God or an angel, as was said to be the case with Muhammad. "Satanic Verses."

In Sura Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53... "Muhammad confessed his mistake, alleging that all prophets were tempted by Satan who inspire them with demonic verses, as if they were actually revealed by God".

Satan tells us lies.

2 Corinthians 2:11... "He is so eloquent, so persuasive in his lies, we are so gullible, that we fall for his schemes."....

We fall for his schemes... Would you agree that among Satan's scheming he would include pretending to be God ?

John 8:44... "for he is a liar and the father of lies".

Why would God order Abraham to break one of the Commandments & commit murder ?

Why would God order a burnt offering when Hosea 6:6... "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings"

& Isaiah 1:11... “What makes you think I want all your sacrifices ?” says the LORD. “I am sick of your burnt offerings of rams and the fat of fattened cattle. I get no pleasure from the blood of bulls and lambs and goats".

The Lord here states that He is sick of the sacrifices of animal flesh so why would He want a human sacrifice ?

Sacrifice was a pagan ritual …C&P… "animal sacrifice comes from Egypt. The oldest Egyptian burial sites containing animal remains originate from the Badari culture of Upper Egypt, which flourished 4,000 BC ."

Gen 22:2... states it was God ordering Abraham to sacrifice Isaac.

All versions of the Bible state that God tested Abraham but for the...

...Contemporary English Version it states 'The LORD' tells Abraham To Offer Isaac as a Sacrifice.

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Why then did God not turn up to stop him & congratulate him for passing the test ?

But instead of God there was an angel !

This must make us think it was Satan tempting Abraham to commit murder.

Genesis 22:11..."But the angel of the LORD called out to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!”

“Here I am,” he replied. Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him.

Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”

First we are told an angel of the LORD is speaking. Then the angel is speaking as if God is speaking by saying " you have not withheld from ME"...

Then again as if the angel is speaking "Now I know you fear God"

Was that God talking about Himself as in the third person ? No it was an angel of the Lord who was sent after knowing Satan had deceived Abraham.

If it was The Supreme God He would have known what was in Abraham’s heart. There would be no need for The All knowing Supreme Creator God to test what He already knew.

As was the case with Job. It was Satan that wanted to test Job. Even The Lord Saviour would have learnt to known, by that time, what was in Job’s heart.

The Bible speaks & warns of other gods…

Deuteronomy 32:17 …"to new gods that had come recently, whom your fathers had never dreaded"

Genesis 3:22 ...“And the Lord God said, ‘The man has now become like one of “US”…

Exodus 23:13 ...“Pay attention to all that I have said to you, and make no mention of the names of other gods, nor let it be heard on your lips".

Exodus 15:11... “Who is like you, O Lord, among the gods" ?

Jeremiah 25:6... "Do not go after other gods to serve and worship them"

Psalm 135... "I know that the LORD is great, that our Lord is greater than all gods".

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The heartless Pharaoh still refused to free the Israelite slaves.

"So God, brought about one last plague, which was so terrible that it was certain to persuade Pharaoh to let his slaves go".

That night, God sent the angel of death to kill the firstborn sons of the Egyptians."

It was a revenge killing… The true God of Love & Creation would not be a revenge killer.

Why not send an angel to kill the Pharaoh instead of killing innocent children ?

Some answer because God allows free will.

Yes The Supreme Creator God allows free will but what happened to the free will of the innocent children killed by the angel of death ?

It was not The Supreme Creator God & was not the Lord God as there is no constant figure of the angel of death in the Bible, but in the Talmud, Satan and the evil inclination are both identified with him.

So the angel of death was in all likelihood working for Satan & as such caused confusion & discrediting God.

Did The Supreme Creator God kill all in Sodom & Gomorrah & then kill Lot's wife for looking over her shoulder ?

Let's review some of the things the so called one & only true God was said to have done.

Note: Today's theologenges who can not explain the cruelty said to be demonstrated by God in the Old Testament now call Him "The "Old God "

Kings 2: 23-24... Elisha called on The Lord to curse some boys because they made fun of his baldness. Then, according to theologians, God sent two female bears that ripped the boys to pieces.

Many Christian theologians go to great lengths in trying to justify God's action with none of them considering that it could have been the devil reacting to Elisha’s call for a curse.

Not only does the action of the bears discredit God, for which would have pleased Satan, it discredits Elisha as he was seen as a God loving man.

Or indeed it could have been just a coincidence. The two mother bears heard the noise the boys were making & saw them as a threat to their young cubs.

Numbers 16:35… The Lord killed over 15,000 people for complaining about the time taken to reach the promises land. However there was a plague & a fire for which Abraham could have said God sent just to avoid a rebellion against him.

Leviticus 21:17-2...No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the Lord made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God.

A blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, or a man that is broken footed, or broken handed, or crookback, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his bones broken.

Would The Supreme God discriminate against the afflicted & ugly when in Galatians 3:28...

..."There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus ?

Genesis 38:1-10…Judah got a wife for Er, his firstborn, and her name was Tamar. But Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death.

(what happened to free will ?) No reason given other than he was wicked.

Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfil your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.”

But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also.

What needs to be noted is that in most all of those texts the word Lord is mentioned not God. It does not even say Lord God.

The word God is used once when Abraham was said to be talking to God about Sodom & Gomorrah but how come Abraham had to tell the so called Supreme all Knowing God that Lot & his wife were righteous ?

Job 1:9... And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil ?

9 Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought ?

If Jesus was God he would have said... He feareth 'me'.

Likewise if Jesus was God Satan would have said... Doth Job not fear 'you' for nought ?

In Exodus 12... we see even though the then so called true God had no power to stop Pharaoh killing babies he could not even offer...

"his people" protection against being enslaved in the first place !

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Not only had The Supreme God of Creation left the Earthly realm by then how could it have been The Supreme God, that knows everything, when it was Abraham that had to tell God that Lot & his family were righteous ?

Did The One True God of Love & Creation send a flood that killed every living man, woman and child (in the known world in that area) even though he created them ?

Then He was unable to protect the females of Noah’s family after the flood from getting raped by the fallen angels ? The very reason why mankind became corrupt before the flood !

The Supreme God made plans before action & had a backup plan to cover Satan taking the opportunity to corrupt that plan.

The Supreme God would NOT have made any mistakes or had to be sorry for any of His actions but a lesser god would make mistakes & be sorry for his actions.

Genesis 6:6... "The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled".

"Never again will all life be cut off by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth".

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If the True Creator ‘Omni present’ ‘All-knowing God’ of love was speaking to Adam, after partaking of the fruit, why did He have to ask "where are you" ?

Gen 3:8... "Then the man & his wife heard the sound of the LORD God" Gen 3:9 "But the LORD God called to the man, “Where are you" ?

Gen 3:13..."Then the LORD God said to the woman, What is this you have done"?

Gen 3:14 ..."So the LORD God said to the serpent...

Again please note : 'FROM' Genesis 1:1..."In the beginning God created"... 'TO' Genesis 2:4...The word God by itself is mentioned 29 times. Not once does it say Lord.

Then, when describing physical creation starting at Genesis 2:24... the reference changes to the Lord God.

Gen 2:24... "This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the LORD God made the earth and the heavens".

After that the Lord God is mentioned 11 times with no mention of God by itself until Genesis 3:5 when the serpent says "For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened."

This was before the original sin. After the sin, as mentioned, it starts to say Lord or Lord God.

The phrase the Lord God may mean 'the Lord about to be a God' or it could mean the Lord of the Earth & judge of the Earth as previously mentioned when Elohim (god) in the original Hebrew Bible can also mean a person in authority.

'Lord', on the other hand, means the Almighty Saviour of the world”.

Where are you ?… What have you done ? …Who told you you were naked ?...Did you eat the fruit ?

Why did He have to ask if He was the All knowing God ?

Because the god that asked those questions DID NOT KNOW…

The Supreme God of creation could not stay near to Earth or Eden with all the sin & sinners as such returned to the highest heaven where there is only purity.

Many people in those early days were being instructed by angels who were controlled as to what they said by the covenant, the laws of the land & to some extent what people were expecting to be said....

As an example : Trying to explain to people, at that time, that the world was round & that there are people on the other side of the Earth walking around upside down would not gain the angel credibility regarding anything else spoken about.

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Jesus, as a protest to the old rules & abominations, often shaved His entire body of hair in defiance of 'man made rules'.

The eating of certain foods was not forbidden only seen as an abomination.

There were 100's of abominations like reading your horoscope, walking proud, shaving the eyebrows etc. etc.

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Jesus’ ministry caused many changes in the law changes so dramatic that laws were set aside or declared obsolete" (Hebrews 7:18; 8:13).

Mark 4:10...

" When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables.

He told them...

The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you.

But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that, they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven."

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He also accepted homosexuality as pointed out in some of the scrolls held back by the Egyptian government for centuries.

In those days most all rich men had multiple (100's) wives & concubines. As a consequence homosexuality was common place for men that could not find a woman.

Matthew 19:12 Jesus said “For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.

Keep in mind that the Deity considers all forms of sexual gratification sinful.

Does Jesus accept gays ?

"Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.”

It seems some of Jesus' disciples were gay as also pointed out in Barbara Thiering's work on the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Just because homosexuality was seen as an abomination (repugnant) it was accepted some males and females were born that way just the same as some people ate pork for which was also seen as an abomination.

No one in this world is free from committing abominations and the new covenant with man allows some of these things especially if it is not against the law of the land.

"Some laws remained the same, some were changed, and others were “abolished.”

This in accordance with renewed and updated covenants with mankind".

Copy paste :- “The new covenant" is the new agreement God has made with mankind, based on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The concept of a new covenant originated with the promise of Jeremiah that God would accomplish for His people what the old covenant had failed to do (Jer. 31:31-34)

Under this new covenant, God would write His Law on human hearts".

When the Bible refers to His people it is today referring to all people as the promise made in... Gen 28:14...

..."Your descendants will be like the dust of the earth, and you will spread out to the west and to the east, to the north and to the south. To all peoples on earth".

In regards to the new covenant being written on our hearts it means all people regardless of if they don't know of Jesus or the Ten Commandments now know in their hearts the difference between right & wrong.

Mark 3 : 28...Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, but

whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

In addition regardless of what a person has done forgiveness will be given for all those that regret their past sins & would never repeat or consider doing the wrong again.

Keep in mind...An Atheist can offer not one shred of evidence to show God, Jesus, giants or angels do not exist but believers can offer a wealth of historical information, as presented herein, that shows they do.

Some people are non believers but want to believe. They demand proof.

Some are non believers because they are unable, at this time in their lives to comprehend, among other things, the metaphysical side of life.

Here it is telling us that Jesus is becoming a God at the end of the

era. Until then He is still learning.

Despite all those scholars who give dates regarding when judgment day

will be know body knows....

“When the Son of Man comes in his glory and all his angels are with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.

The people of every nation will be gathered in front of him.

He will separate them as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

He will put the sheep on his right but the goats on his left".

“No one knows when that day or time will be. The Son and the angels in heaven don’t know when it will be.

Only the Father knows

God left Jesus & other angels as guides for humanity & to fight against the corruption caused by Satan.

As Jesus was only learning His father’s abilities He made mistakes as did His angels…

They were often outwitted by Satan & as a result Satan & his fallen angels duped the world in believing that God was a killer to be feared.

Satan’s work is to gather more souls to follow him & his desires & not God’s way ….

...he does this by sowing doubt causing chaos & people to believe God is to be feared.

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Jesus never called Himself God or even hinted that He was God.

In fact He made it quite clear that He was not God as has been shown in the 50 verses from the Bible listed herein. Most being quotes made by Jesus .

In contrast there are only four or five that could be vaguely construed that Jesus was God.

John 20:28 Thomas said to Jesus ...

“My Lord and my God !” when Jesus asked him to put his finger into His wounds.

In John 12:45 "And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me".

Only those wanting Jesus to be the one & only God cite these verses but when Jesus states... "him that sent me" He was NOT talking about Himself !

John 8:58: “Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am. See :-

Those that cite John 1:1 say "Jesus was with God in the beginning".

Yes Jesus was there with God in the beginning but He was still created by God in order to manifest God's visions into the physical.

Referred to as one of the morning stars that sang glorification to the Creator God, along with other angels, after watching God create the heavens and earth.

However the Earth was clearly made in both the astral & physical form by the Supreme God before any other spiritual entities were created aside from the highest of the first angels including the two morning stars Jesus who formed the light for use in the physical world & Lucifer the bringer of the light to the physical world.

Jesus & Lucifer, the two morning stars, both watched the Supreme God creating in the beginning.

Then in Job 38.4 The Lord spoke from a whirlwind... "Where were you when I laid earth’s foundation & its cornerstone" ?

Here The Lord did not say He made the earth.

He stated that He laid down the foundation, the cornerstone (the framework) that holds the physical in place. (gravity ?).

No one but Jesus & the angels can see God because He now has no physical form to see.

God may have had a physical body at one time as Jesus refers to 'Him' our 'Father'.

One would think as it was stated that God used some of His own essence to bring Jesus into being Jesus would have considered His creator to be a female.

However as He called God a male can we assume The Holy Spirit, the driving force (creator & giver of the breath of life) was classified as feminine ?

The form we see as Jesus was made by God. As God gave Jesus His power He was the personification of His Father. Like father like son.

Not until after the Roman emperor Constantine converted to Christianity in 312 AD did Constantine stop calling himself a god as all previous Roman emperors had done & then, only 13 years later, in 325 AD the first council of Nicaea made a law that superseded all previous laws in declaring the "Son was true God".

However they used the word coeternal meaning they exist together eternally.

Not they existed together as one.

They did not declare the Son of God was God. Neither did they say the Son of God was a God nor did they say the son of God is God.

Their decision, it seems to call Jesus true God, was based on their misunderstanding that they, Jesus & God, were made of the same substance but that was not exactly true because in...

Hebrew 2:9 "But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while"...

& before in Hebrews 1:4 ...Here The Supreme God states 'have you heard me ask other angels these two rhetorical questions' ?

- As a part of you is a part of me (inheritance) can it be said I begot you ?

And - even though parts of you are made as are the angels can you be called my son ?

Meaning that Jesus unlike the angels, for which Jesus was mostly made of the same substance, the angels were obviously made of something else that was not of God.

Jesus also had as His makeup a part of God. Therefore Jesus was not made exactly the same as God and was not exactly the same as the angels at that time.

The later created angels must have been made of the same mixture as Jesus because unlike the original higher angels they were able to incantate. (that mixture may have been sub - atomic particles.) & those lessor angles in all likelihood were created by Jesus because of their physical make up.

That 'more excellent of name' (title) than the name angel - was the title Lord or at that time learning to be Lord God of earth yet to become, after judgement, an Almighty God of this earth.

Here, from all of the above, is the proof that calling Jesus the one & only God is a man made concept.

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Here, from all of the above, is the proof that calling Jesus the one & only God is a man made concept.

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Alas many before & at the end of the era will take the wrong path because of a...

type for fear of God that should NOT exist.

Do not let yourself be one of them !

Not having a deep solemn respect for The Holy Spirit 'may' result in a judgment of eternal death or eternal separation from God....

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Please take note… the goats are all those whose names that are not in The Book of Life.

These are soulless beings were created by ?

For without bad things happening in our lives we would not realize what the good ones are.

Thank You.

Those that cite John 1:1 say "Jesus was with God in the beginning".

Yes He was there with God in the beginning but He was still created by God in order to manifest God's visions into the physical.

Referred as one of the morning stars that sang in glorification, with other angels, after watching God create the heavens and earth.

Galatians 5:16 "But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh". "Do on earth as is done in heaven". There is no sex in heaven.

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Digressing here to make a point : Regarding lost & found religious texts.

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Angels not only had to teach Enoch to read & write using words not cuneiform or hieroglyphics but how to make parchment & transcribe the words using pen & ink instead of clay tablets.

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Genesis 1:26... Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule...

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Exodus 20:5..Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God.

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Jesus never called Himself God or even hinted that He was God.

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In fact He made it quite clear that He was not God as has been shown in the 50 verses from the Bible listed herein. Most being quotes made by Jesus .

In contrast there are only four or five that could be vaguely construed that Jesus was God.

John 20:28 Thomas said to Jesus ...

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“My Lord and my God !” when Jesus asked him to put his finger into His wounds.

In John 12:45 "And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me".

Only those wanting Jesus to be the one & only God cite these verses but when Jesus states... "him that sent me" He was NOT talking about Himself !

John 8:58: “Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am. See :-

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Those that cite John 1:1 say "Jesus was with God in the beginning".

Yes Jesus was there with God in the beginning but He was still created by God in order to manifest God's visions into the physical.

Referred to as one of the morning stars that sang glorification to the Creator God, along with other angels, after watching God create the heavens and earth.

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No one but Jesus & the angels can see God because He now has no physical form to see.

God may have had a physical body at one time as Jesus refers to 'Him' our 'Father'.

One would think as it was stated that God used some of His own essence to bring Jesus into being Jesus would have considered His creator to be a female.

However as He called God a male can we assume The Holy Spirit, the driving force (creator & giver of the breath of life) was classified as feminine ?

The form we see as Jesus was made by God. As God gave Jesus His power He was the personification of His Father. Like father like son.

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However they used the word coeternal meaning they exist together eternally.

Not they existed together as one.

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They did not declare the Son of God was God. Neither did they say the Son of God was a God nor did they say the son of God is God.

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Their decision, it seems to call Jesus true God, was based on their misunderstanding that they, Jesus & God, were made of the same substance but that was not exactly true because in...

Hebrew 2:9 "But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while"...

& before in Hebrews 1:4 ...Here The Supreme God states 'have you heard me ask other angels these two rhetorical questions' ?

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Galatians 5:16 "But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh".

"Do on earth as is done in heaven".

There is no sex in heaven.